Comments for tech ramblings http://www.laurathomson.com Laura Thomson's random thoughts and rants about tech and FOSS Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:17:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 Comment on Socorro: Mozilla’s Crash Reporting System by admin http://www.laurathomson.com/2010/05/socorro-mozillas-crash-reporting-system/#comment-732 admin Thu, 27 May 2010 17:36:18 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=124#comment-732 I almost forgot: 3.6.3 crashes are throttled to 15%, and since 3.6.4 is a beta, we get 100% of crashes. I almost forgot: 3.6.3 crashes are throttled to 15%, and since 3.6.4 is a beta, we get 100% of crashes.

]]> Comment on Socorro: Mozilla’s Crash Reporting System by admin http://www.laurathomson.com/2010/05/socorro-mozillas-crash-reporting-system/#comment-727 admin Thu, 27 May 2010 15:15:59 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=124#comment-727 >* It doesn’t look like it’s possible to compare 3.6.3 with 3.6.4 by showing both graphs at the same time. Any plans for that? >* Why is 3.6.4 listed as a current release when it hasn’t been released yet? Right now, the releases featured and graphed on the homepage vs each other, as well as the current releases, are admin configurable (and generally altered by various members of the Firefox and Platform teams as needed). We haven't had a request for more graph flexibility that I am aware of (either in existing bugs or in the requirements gathering for 2.0). In terms of "current releases" this is really "current releases that are submitting crashes". The ones that usually get the most attention are the current generally available release, plus whatever builds are being worked on at any given time. Right now that's 3.6.4 since it is close to release, and the two alpha releases. It's a little bit different from our end user aimed sites; the main consumers of crash-stats are our own engineers and metrics people. The use cases for it tend to be around finding new crashes, trying to reproduce crashes, and diagnosing crashes. >* If I compare the crashes per ADUs on 3.6.3 and 3.6.4, it looks like 3.6.4 crashes 10x more often! 3.6.3 is about 0.25 and 3.6.4 is around 3.0. I assume this is wrong? The numbers should be right. Note there is a bit of distortion from 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4, so it's not apples to apples. In 3.6.4, we have OOPP support, so crash reports don't necessarily represent a crash to the *end user*. If Flash hangs, a pair of crash reports are generated and submitted, one for the plugin process, and one for the browser process. At present the plugins covered by OOPP represent somewhere in the vicinity of 35-40% of crashes, so there will be that many more reports in the system, and that many less apparent crashes from the user's perspective. The other distortion 3.6.4-wise is that it's not in general release yet, so there are a smaller number of users, and they are likely pushing on it more (testing, QA, and so on). I hope this helps. >* It doesn’t look like it’s possible to compare 3.6.3 with 3.6.4 by showing both graphs at the same time. Any plans for that?
>* Why is 3.6.4 listed as a current release when it hasn’t been released yet?

Right now, the releases featured and graphed on the homepage vs each other, as well as the current releases, are admin configurable (and generally altered by various members of the Firefox and Platform teams as needed). We haven’t had a request for more graph flexibility that I am aware of (either in existing bugs or in the requirements gathering for 2.0).

In terms of “current releases” this is really “current releases that are submitting crashes”. The ones that usually get the most attention are the current generally available release, plus whatever builds are being worked on at any given time. Right now that’s 3.6.4 since it is close to release, and the two alpha releases.

It’s a little bit different from our end user aimed sites; the main consumers of crash-stats are our own engineers and metrics people. The use cases for it tend to be around finding new crashes, trying to reproduce crashes, and diagnosing crashes.

>* If I compare the crashes per ADUs on 3.6.3 and 3.6.4, it looks like 3.6.4 crashes 10x more often! 3.6.3 is about 0.25 and 3.6.4 is around 3.0. I assume this is wrong?

The numbers should be right. Note there is a bit of distortion from 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4, so it’s not apples to apples. In 3.6.4, we have OOPP support, so crash reports don’t necessarily represent a crash to the *end user*. If Flash hangs, a pair of crash reports are generated and submitted, one for the plugin process, and one for the browser process. At present the plugins covered by OOPP represent somewhere in the vicinity of 35-40% of crashes, so there will be that many more reports in the system, and that many less apparent crashes from the user’s perspective. The other distortion 3.6.4-wise is that it’s not in general release yet, so there are a smaller number of users, and they are likely pushing on it more (testing, QA, and so on). I hope this helps.

]]> Comment on Socorro: Mozilla’s Crash Reporting System by David Tenser http://www.laurathomson.com/2010/05/socorro-mozillas-crash-reporting-system/#comment-714 David Tenser Thu, 27 May 2010 09:47:06 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=124#comment-714 Some questions: * It doesn't look like it's possible to compare 3.6.3 with 3.6.4 by showing both graphs at the same time. Any plans for that? * Why is 3.6.4 listed as a current release when it hasn't been released yet? * If I compare the crashes per ADUs on 3.6.3 and 3.6.4, it looks like 3.6.4 crashes 10x more often! 3.6.3 is about 0.25 and 3.6.4 is around 3.0. I assume this is wrong? Some questions:

* It doesn’t look like it’s possible to compare 3.6.3 with 3.6.4 by showing both graphs at the same time. Any plans for that?
* Why is 3.6.4 listed as a current release when it hasn’t been released yet?
* If I compare the crashes per ADUs on 3.6.3 and 3.6.4, it looks like 3.6.4 crashes 10x more often! 3.6.3 is about 0.25 and 3.6.4 is around 3.0. I assume this is wrong?

]]> Comment on Socorro: Mozilla’s Crash Reporting System by vernon http://www.laurathomson.com/2010/05/socorro-mozillas-crash-reporting-system/#comment-646 vernon Wed, 26 May 2010 18:23:20 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=124#comment-646 Yeah, crashes have definitely decreased. 3.6 is a lot stable. Nice work.. Yeah, crashes have definitely decreased. 3.6 is a lot stable. Nice work..

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I was just wondering which version of PHP and MySQL your book PHP and MySQL Web Development, 4th edition covers?

Thank you,

-Greg

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]]> Comment on Parenting Versus Programming by rob http://www.laurathomson.com/2009/12/parenting-versus-programming/#comment-525 rob Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:07:39 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=123#comment-525 great article, thanks :-) made my day. greets, rob (father,programmer). great article, thanks :-)

made my day.

greets, rob (father,programmer).

]]> Comment on Parenting Versus Programming by Georg http://www.laurathomson.com/2009/12/parenting-versus-programming/#comment-519 Georg Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:17:35 +0000 http://www.laurathomson.com/?p=123#comment-519 Great post, funny read! Great post, funny read!

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